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22 April 2008 @ 02:59 am
Becoming a Boddhisattva  

The Actual Pledge

I'm not saying I am at all qualified to ever do such a thing--but I aspire to be, without taking on necessarily the whole framework of Buddhism. (For one thing, like all Eastern paths it still has remnants of sexism and other things that I disagree with.)

So...let me become a pagan version of a Boddhisattva in some lifetime. Besides, I no longer see this realm as something I must escape. But there are many fires to put out here and someone has to woman the bucket brigade.
3treekisser: Crescent3treekisser on April 22nd, 2008 04:26 pm (UTC)
That's one thing that makes me shy away from Mahayana Buddhism. I look more towards the ideal of the arhat in Theravada. I think boddhisattvas are a wonderful concept, but something which I could never work towards, more's the pity.
Tapatitapati on April 22nd, 2008 09:23 pm (UTC)
I wonder what happens when the last conditioned soul leaves--do they all link arms and cross over together? Do they fight over who gets to be last? LOL!

I agree that the concept needs some modernizing and maybe paganizing.
3treekisser: Cherry Cat3treekisser on April 23rd, 2008 01:45 am (UTC)
In particular, what do you take issue with in the traditional concept of the boddhisattva?
Tapatitapati on April 23rd, 2008 06:01 pm (UTC)
The end result is fine, it's the baggage they put around the process of becoming one, some of which is cultural and so akin to my former Hare Krsna path that I find myself reacting to it with a certain amount of, well, "ickiness." (I'm short on sleep and no better wording comes to mine, sorry.)

I also don't think one needs to fully attain boddhisattva status to help others, so my revised version says that I'm going to be less preoccupied in achieving self-realization than in simply being of service. Let the realization come from that organically.

It seems kind of odd to me after years of Eastern thought that they preach selflessness but everyone is focused on their liberation (unless they take the pledge, and even then to fulfill it they must seek the consciousness to be liberated).

I'll come back after much sleep and see if I can make better sense. :)
3treekisser: Lotus3treekisser on April 24th, 2008 04:36 am (UTC)
+++It seems kind of odd to me after years of Eastern thought that they preach selflessness but everyone is focused on their liberation+++

If I'm not mistaken I think this paradox was raised with the Buddha -- you're not even supposed to desire nirvana, actually. *shrugs*
Tapatitapati on April 24th, 2008 12:17 pm (UTC)
That's one of those things that gets lost in the zeal to reach the goal. Human nature, I guess.

It's just that so many pagans view the wheel as something one doesn't have to escape. So I'm caught between the paradigms.